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Quote: Blackholes_Wolf

Spyro's design is just bad, it doesn't know what it wants to be. Is it trying to be realstic or cute? You can't tell. It's also way overdesigned, too many pointless things added like more spikes, those 2 teeth sticking out and way too many spots. It just looks tacky, way too rushed and unoriginal. Also add a money grabbing gimmick and pointless characters.

SUCH A WINING FORMULA

First off, I want to thank you for giving a proper reason why you don't like the design instead of just saying "it sucks because I said so". Since it's my nature, I'm going to respond to them.

I highly doubt it's trying to be cute, and that it's trying to be realistic. But I'm going to assume that you are correct and that they were trying to balance out the two. It's not cute if you ask me, it looks more like the pet of a demon. Frankly, I like that kind of stuff, so I guess that could be a reason why I like the design.

To say it's overdesigned is to say that Call of Duty or Uncharted is too detailed. It doesn't make much sense.

Personally, I think unoriginal would've been to copy the LoS or DotD design. At least these guys tried something new instead of playing it safe.

The only way you are going to get the Classic design that everybody wants is if you get Insomniac to make the games again. I would be shocked and glad if you manage to pull that off.

And yeah, it's a gimmick. So was Guitar Hero and the Wii. And look how those two turned out. I'm not going to say that the same will happen to this, or that it won't. I'm saying that I'm looking at it with an open mind, and it could actually turn out good.

And you can say that several LoS and Classic characters were pointless as well.

It's a winning formula is people are going to buy it. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean its sales are going into the crapper.

Oh, and for referring to me as a fantard, I find it strange you assume that when time and time again I've shown hatred for Activision and their business decisions, and how I constantly note that ETD was one of the worst games of all time. Yep, that stuff definately makes me a fantard. /sarcasm

dark52... This shouldn't even be on this site. It not a Spyro game. It a game with Spyro and his name in it. A trick from Activision to score more money.

Quote: Crush

dark52... This shouldn't even be on this site. It not a Spyro game. It a game with Spyro and his name in it. A trick from Activision to score more money.

lolz that's what you think of the game. It was dark52's decision to post Skylanders Spyro news on this site, not yours. If he thinks it's not a Spyro game, he wouldn't have posted this, but he did, to spread the news around of Skylanders and that it's a new Spyro game. And this is a 'Spyro' forum, and the news is Spyro-related..

Quote: Aura24

Quote: Crush

dark52... This shouldn't even be on this site. It not a Spyro game. It a game with Spyro and his name in it. A trick from Activision to score more money.

lolz that's what you think of the game. It was dark52's decision to post Skylanders Spyro news on this site, not yours. If he thinks it's not a Spyro game, he wouldn't have posted this, but he did, to spread the news around of Skylanders and that it's a new Spyro game. And this is a 'Spyro' forum, and the news is Spyro-related..

wtf what's the point in editing it 6 times?

There's also going to be a griffon, a feathered dragon, and a water dragon character in the game. Spyro isn't going to be the only dragon

Beauty is in the eye of beholder and you can't force somebody to like or dislike something, the design looks like any other stereotypical dragon shape and it just looks bland. It's like they got some kid to come up with the most unoriginal dragon design they could think of. It looks way too generic and outdated, nothing new. btw the characters in the original trilogy actually added more to the game, they added new levels and give a new way to play. The characters in spyro's adventure are just added to make more money. Also look at what happened to guitar hero, it got cancelled and I never play my Wii any more and just like most wii's it's just in my closet getting dusty. You call the successful? LOLOL.

Please do us all a favour and stop bashing the people who don't like the design, I never said that the game is not going to sell because I said so. I said the formula is way too money grabbing. It's my opinion and I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just defending them

Quote: Blackholes_Wolf

Beauty is in the eye of beholder and you can't force somebody to like or dislike something, the design looks like any other stereotypical dragon shape and it just looks bland. It's like they got some kid to come up with the most unoriginal dragon design they could think of. It looks way too generic and outdated, nothing new. btw the characters in the original trilogy actually added more to the game, they added new levels and give a new way to play. The characters in spyro's adventure are just added to make more money. Also look at what happened to guitar hero, it got cancelled and I never play my Wii any more and just like most wii's it's just in my closet getting dusty. You call the successful? LOLOL.

Please do us all a favour and stop bashing the people who don't like the design, I never said that the game is not going to sell because I said so. I said the formula is way too money grabbing. It's my opinion and I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just defending them

I'm not trying to force anybody to like the design. That's not something I do.

If you think it looks generic, that's fine.

If that is in fact the reason why they put Spyro in there, then it's a stupid one. The gaming world has forgotten about Spyro and don't care for the character. Regardless of if he was in the game or not, it would've sold. Spyro being in the game doesn't help its sales, and no, it won't get sales from the fanbase since it's fairly obvious they are pissed.

Guitar Hero got cancelled because it wasn't selling anymore, because Activision wasn't trying to add anything new, and were instead churning them out every year. The same goes for Call of Duty, and why that series is still alive let alone get millions of sales is beyond me.

And just because you don't like it, doesn't mean that the item was a failure. The Wii is the 5th best selling console of all time, with 84 million sales. That sounds like a success to me.

I'm not bashing people that don't like the design. If it looks that way, I apologize. I'm only bashing the people that refuse to buy the game and assume it's terrible just because of the design. It's just like with Sonic 4 when people refused to try out the game because he had green eyes. I don't mind it if you don't want to buy the game. But at least give a better reason than "THE DESIGN SUCKS!". There are people here that gave logical reasons. They don't think the toy idea will work, they don't have the money, or they think the gameplay looks weak. That's fine. But reasons like "the design sucks, therefore the game sucks" doesn't really cut it for me, and only makes me think that you liked the old Spyro games just because of his design, which is really shallow.

I never liked the first game just because of it's design, the original trilogy had some amazing design tbh. The worlds were creative/imaginative and all the playable characters were unique. Looking at SA's trailer all the characters just look shallow and just there to add more money. Once again your came coming to your own close minded conclusions way too quickly, I have never mentioned that I wasn't going to buy it. (I would buy anything that hanz zimmer in it) I'm just critical of the design choices and the whole gimmick. For something to be successful it doesn't have sell loads of copies, it can be successful it's own fanbase and have a long lasting appeal

I cant deal with this theyve ruined spyro!!!!!!!

Quote: Blackholes_Wolf

I never liked the first game just because of it's design, the original trilogy had some amazing design tbh. The worlds were creative/imaginative and all the playable characters were unique. Looking at SA's trailer all the characters just look shallow and just there to add more money. Once again your came coming to your own close minded conclusions way too quickly, I have never mentioned that I wasn't going to buy it. (I would buy anything that hanz zimmer in it) I'm just critical of the design choices and the whole gimmick. For something to be successful it doesn't have sell loads of copies, it can be successful it's own fanbase and have a long lasting appeal

I wasn't talking directly to you. I was talking in general, and that's how it looks like. Odds are it isn't, and since that's the case, then why are so many people refusing to buy the game just because of his design?

Everybody has close minded moments. I look to everything open minded, but I will admit that this isn't one of those times. But I remember you saying that you don't want to buy the game, mostly because of the gimmick.

Sadly, that's not how companies see it. To them, critical acclaim or a large fanbase doesn't make the game successful. It's about how many sales it gets. Why do you think Guitar Hero lasted as long as it did? The popularity of it ended with World Tour, and from there reviews became more critical. But the games were still selling, and that's why Activision kept it going. They noticed that the bad reviews helped in the decline of sales, and so they ceased production, leaving Rock Band as the only major rhythm game series out there. And unlike GH, Rock Band was constantly changing, making the games better. Maybe Activision would learn from that. Highly doubt it though. But that's besides the point.

As a gamer, a game can be successful in any way possible. But I decided to step away from that and look at things in a business standpoint, and in that case sales is the only thing that makes a game a success. There are a few companies out there that do try to make good games to get more sales (Nintendo, Capcom, etc). But the majority only care about sales, like Activision. It sucks, but there's nothing you nor I can do about it.

Somebody's gonna complain about the long posts....

I cant deal with this theyve ruined spyro!!!!!!!

If your were directly posting at everybody then what't the point at quoting my quote? Also I have never said I wasn't going to buy the game, seriously read over my posts again. For me gimmicks never last, they become boring or tedious, the reason why GH stopped selling because once brought one game. You've played them all, also not everybody was going to buy a game with a massive guitar again and again. Tbh I look at everything in my own prescriptive, it may sound close minded but everybody dose it.

Of course these are just my opinions

Is the character designs of Spyro really what matters to some Spyro fans out there to make their decision for them?

Quote: Aura24

Is the character designs of Spyro really what matters to some Spyro fans out there to make their decision for them?

Apparently so.

Quite personally, the more I see/hear of this game, the more I anticipate playing it.

Why does this sound like a Little Big Planet rip-off to me? :X

Quote: Thunderdragon14

AWW so it's not in TLoS? D':

Yeah I'm a bit sad about that too. But at least it's a Spyro game we'll probably enjoy.

Quote: Blackholes_Wolf

If your were directly posting at everybody then what't the point at quoting my quote? Also I have never said I wasn't going to buy the game, seriously read over my posts again. For me gimmicks never last, they become boring or tedious, the reason why GH stopped selling because once brought one game. You've played them all, also not everybody was going to buy a game with a massive guitar again and again. Tbh I look at everything in my own prescriptive, it may sound close minded but everybody dose it.

Of course these are just my opinions

I was quoting you because I wanted to respond to you.

Note that you don't need to buy another guitar for GH. And it stopped selling after World Tour, since that was the last time it actually did something new. People noticed that Rock Band was constantly changing, and they were constantly uploading DLC. GH wasn't uploading as much DLC as Rock Band, and they didn't change anything for the last few games. That's why it stopped selling.

So do I. But sometimes it's nice to look at things with an open mind. That's what I'm doing with Skylanders. I highly doubt the idea will work since Toys For Bob only made one memorable game and that was years ago when it was under different management. But I'm still wondering what would happen if they did get it right.

And these are my opinions.

When you're not trolling, you're actually nice to talk/debate to.

I try my best to keep a open mind and the reason why the GH got cancelled was a mix of reasons, with the main one being money, gimmicks never last long and the market got overfilled with rhythm games. If the market becomes too overfilled, consumers will more likely ignore. The video game crash in the 80s is proof enough of this. Tbh Rock band is more likely to have the same fate. For me Skylander looks rushed, watching the trailer again you can see odd animations, for example when spyro opens and closes his mouth. He looks like a hand puppet. this could be because it's still in beta but it could be a early sign of lazy developing. It also raises questions like what other wrong design/gameplay choices they have made. Also the sacrifices they have made to other parts of the game for the gimmick which is probably going to limit the story/gameplay. Most of the characters sound like there going to be copy pasta versions of each other, for example the griffion could be just be spyro in another skin.

I'm just speculating but the more I think about it, the whole toy gimmick sounds better for a mini game

btw im always trollin

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Quote: Aura24

Is the character designs of Spyro really what matters to some Spyro fans out there to make their decision for them?

Apparently so.

And they call themselves Spyro fans. What kind of Spyro fans? Fans who simply judge a Spyro game only by Spyro's appearance, then deem the unreleased game worthy or a failure because it isn't what they asked for about the Spyro's appearance?

Quote: Aura24

Quote: Thunderdragon14

AWW so it's not in TLoS? D':

Yeah I'm a bit sad about that too. But at least it's a Spyro game we'll probably enjoy.

Yeah its really ugly the los series is far much better but I liked the original
....still worth playing this one and hope we can fly freely on this one

Activision have finally revealed their plans for Spyro, and those plans are in the form of Skylanders: Spyro's Adventure. USA Today have the details of this new direction for the franchise.

This is apparently the "innovative new universe" that "will bring the world of toys, video games and the Internet together in an unprecedented way" that Activision recently mentioned in their Financial Results. Which means the game is likely unrelated to any previous Spyro games and you'll be using various real world action figures from a set of more than 30 characters to interact with the game in some manner.

No platforms are mentioned specifically other than "multiple systems as well as computers, handhelds and phones" but earlier rumours suggested Wii and DS as candidates. They also give a release date of "this fall".

Thanks go to Aura24 for finding the article.

i bet insomniac feels so bad. But sadly there is nothing they can do.

They never owned Spyro, ccrogers..

Quote: dark52

Activision have finally revealed their plans for Spyro, and those plans are in the form of Skylanders: Spyro's Adventure. USA Today have the details of this new direction for the franchise.

This is apparently the "innovative new universe" that "will bring the world of toys, video games and the Internet together in an unprecedented way" that Activision recently mentioned in their Financial Results. Which means the game is likely unrelated to any previous Spyro games and you'll be using various real world action figures from a set of more than 30 characters to interact with the game in some manner.

No platforms are mentioned specifically other than "multiple systems as well as computers, handhelds and phones" but earlier rumours suggested Wii and DS as candidates. They also give a release date of "this fall".

Thanks go to Aura24 for finding the article.

The level Spyro appears to be in that picture looks quite familiar. Some of the only reasons why I'm not feeling too interested in getting this game is that you have to use toys which makes this sound like something for 11-year-olds and younger.

Some of the only reasons why I'm not feeling too interested in getting this game is that you have to use toys which makes this sound like something for 11-year-olds and younger.

The level Spyro appears to be in that picture looks quite familiar. Some of the only reasons why I'm not feeling too interested in getting this game is that you have to use toys which makes this sound like something for 11-year-olds and younger.