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12:50 AM - Wednesday the 28th of September, 2011 - by dark52
As part of the run up to the launch of Skylanders: Spyro's Adventure in just a few weeks time the official Skylanders Youtube channel has posted two new commercials for the game. Check them out below.


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#101 LevanJess 20:13:24 03/10/2011
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Lol, I am a virgin, kid.


Really? Because on Dark's GB you stated "Come back when you all aren't whiny little virgins".
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Quote: Silvery
Okay, so if LoS really sucked as much as so many of you seem to think, then explain why me and many others still keep insisting we liked it? It seems to me that many of you were fans of it when it first came out, but then grew to dislike it after some years. So the game's first appeal was decent at least, but not so much with the lasting one. Maybe I too will be of a different opinion a year after now.

But for now, I insist on liking the games and disliking the notion that the Spyro design seen in Skylanders seems to be the new, permanent direction. I'll also be a SxC supporter due to liking the story behind LoS (both characters' pasts are haunted by Malefor in one way or another, they bond with each other as the story progresses, they deserve a loving and supporting relationship after their hardships, etc.). Yes, it might be somewhat of a cliché, but then again the contrary cannot be said of too many couples, real or fictional. I think your standards are a bit on the high side. smilie

Edit: Of course a new game would also have new villains, a new story, etc. Aren't you restricting your imagination to a cliché-dominated environment now by thinking that a game with Spyro and Cynder as a couple could never have those ingredients? If you've read any of the Spyro fanfics at fanfiction.com, you'd find there are many who invented great stories that continued where DotD ended; with ingredients such as the evolution of S&C's relationship, new dangers, the rebuilding of Warfang, new characters, etc. I've personally read closer to 1 million words (2500 book pages?) of such fanfic within a month now, and I'm still not satisfied smilie


Because everyone has an opinion. Not everyone loves TLoS, not everyone hates it.

I doubt it's permanent. And what standards? I hate Cynder x Spyro, but not because they have a cliche story (which they do, by the way).

I don't read Spyro fanfictions. Mostly because a VERY large amount of it ends in Spyro x Cynder, and I'm sick of that.
Honestly, again, not everyone wants more TLoS, or even Spyro x Cynder. Really, it had lots of fans and it got lots of haters. TLoS didn't make it well on the stock market, so it's less likely they'll make more LoS, anyway.
You have low standards, then.


I also lol'd at Sonicbrawler's post.
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#102 sonicbrawler182 20:18:17 03/10/2011
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.............YOU GUYS ARE ALL VIRGINS WHO CAN'T DRIVE.

(...I've wanted to use that line for SOOOO long)
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#103 Prysom 20:25:17 03/10/2011
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Quote: LevanJess
Quote: Prysom
Lol, I am a virgin, kid.


Really? Because on Dark's GB you stated "Come back when you all aren't whiny little virgins".
smilie


I am by choice, they are because they refuse to get real lives.
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#104 LevanJess 20:27:36 03/10/2011
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Aaand you know that how?
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#105 sonicbrawler182 20:31:02 03/10/2011
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Quote: Prysom
Quote: LevanJess
Quote: Prysom
Lol, I am a virgin, kid.


Really? Because on Dark's GB you stated "Come back when you all aren't whiny little virgins".
smilie


I am by choice, they are because they refuse to get real lives.



......Oooooor, maybe it's because a lot of people on this site are underage?
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#106 Prysom 20:58:52 03/10/2011
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It's not like you need to be 18 to lose your virginity. Some people lose it (willingly) at as young as 8. Most lose it by 16, and lots 14.
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#107 SuperSpyroFan 21:00:28 03/10/2011
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I haven't lost my virginity, thank God.
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#108 sonicbrawler182 21:09:36 03/10/2011
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Quote: Prysom
It's not like you need to be 18 to lose your virginity. Some people lose it (willingly) at as young as 8. Most lose it by 16, and lots 14.



Depends on what country you live iiiiiiinnnn.
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#109 Prysom 21:20:45 03/10/2011
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There are countries that prohibit it below 18? You've got to be kidding.
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#110 sonicbrawler182 21:22:43 03/10/2011
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I shet you not.
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#111 StevemacQ 21:26:42 03/10/2011
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I'm Spyro should like SoulCalibur because of the level designs, music and graphics. These are the reasons why I like SoulCalibur, Devil May Cry and Final Fantasy, because they remind of PSone Spyro.

Is that really a bad thing? You would rather AC/DC music?
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#112 Prysom 21:36:33 03/10/2011
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smilie

I wonder what a cross between Spyro and Final Fantasy would be like? That could be genius...
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#113 bionicle2809 21:39:22 03/10/2011
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There are countries that prohibit it below 18? You've got to be kidding.


/Off Topic

A majority companies in the world have a their age of consent lower than 18, however a large majority of these countries say that it's against the law for a legal adult to have sex with someone that is bellow the legal adult age and above the age of consent.

For example, the UK is one of these countries.
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#114 Prysom 21:42:00 03/10/2011
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That's referring to statutory rape. A person who is 16 cannot have sex with an 18 year old legally, but they can with another 16 year old. You could be 12 and 14, 15 and 13... as long as the two are on the same side of the 18 dividing line, it's fine.
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#115 sonicbrawler182 22:14:48 03/10/2011
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Quote: Prysom
That's referring to statutory rape. A person who is 16 cannot have sex with an 18 year old legally, but they can with another 16 year old. You could be 12 and 14, 15 and 13... as long as the two are on the same side of the 18 dividing line, it's fine.



Not in Ireland. I believe it's straight out 18. I admit, I'm not 100% on it, but the legal age for smoking is 21, and 18 for alcohol, so as you can see, it's pretty strict.
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#116 Prysom 22:18:24 03/10/2011
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Right now, I'm trying to think of how Spyro and FF could be combined... It could be genius...
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#117 sonicbrawler182 22:19:56 03/10/2011
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Funny you should mention that. I remember conjuring up ideas for LoS and FFXIII fan fiction.
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#118 Prysom 22:23:56 03/10/2011
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Think about it. Magic and combat (along with items and weapons depending on character) used in turn based combat, just like FF. It could totally work. I can easily see Spyro working like that.
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#119 sonicbrawler182 22:26:30 03/10/2011
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If they got Mario and Sonic to work in that kind of formula, they can do it for Spyro.
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#120 Prysom 22:27:28 03/10/2011
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Easy too. Limit breaks could be awesome.
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#121 Silvery 00:24:42 04/10/2011
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@LevanJess:
Duhh, of course pretty much all TLoS fanfic ends (if not starts) with SxC, since that's what the entire storyline of LoS dictates, more or less. Nothing wrong with that smilie And call me narrow-minded, but the LoS games are by far the most story-heavy of all Spyro games so far, and this story-heaviness also allows for ample development of relationships between characters, so it's hardly strange that Cynder would seem the most viable partner for Spyro. This is further emphasized by how even the only other option(s) - those residing outside of TLoS - are not exactly viable - Ember (a very, VERY cliché female character, might I add) ends up falling for Bandit, and who else is there, Elora the faun? X)
If you ask me, it's either SxC or then Spyro is single. If that's what you would wish instead, then I guess I can't argue with you smilie

Also, relationships aren't only about falling in love and admitting it, there's also their evolution, romance, helping and supporting your partner, sharing the good and bad times... I don't see why it wouldn't allow for a good game to be created, as long as the basics are in good hands.
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#122 Prysom 00:30:18 04/10/2011
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Quote: Silvery
@LevanJess:
Duhh, of course pretty much all TLoS fanfic ends (if not starts) with SxC, since that's what the entire storyline of LoS dictates, more or less. Nothing wrong with that smilie And call me narrow-minded, but the LoS games are by far the most story-heavy of all Spyro games so far, and this story-heaviness also allows for ample development of relationships between characters, so it's hardly strange that Cynder would seem the most viable partner for Spyro. This is further emphasized by how even the only other option(s) - those residing outside of TLoS - are not exactly viable - Ember (a very, VERY cliché female character, might I add) ends up falling for Bandit, and who else is there, Elora the faun? X)
If you ask me, it's either SxC or then Spyro is single. If that's what you would wish instead, then I guess I can't argue with you smilie

Also, relationships aren't only about falling in love and admitting it, there's also their evolution, romance, helping and supporting your partner, sharing the good and bad times... I don't see why it wouldn't allow for a good game to be created, as long as the basics are in good hands.


BWAHAHA! AHAHAHA! AHAHAHA!

STOP IT, YOUR KILLING ME!
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#123 Silvery 01:12:27 04/10/2011
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...What's funny? The fact that what I stated is so blatantly obvious?
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#124 Prysom 01:24:58 04/10/2011
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No, that it's so ridiculous!

Not only did say LOS, a overused cliche plotbase with plotholes galore all over, was a STORY-HEAVY game, but you said that the characters, the very epitome of worthless acting and blandness, were able to develop ample relationships!

To top it ALL off, you said Cynder, and oh believe me, I could spend HOURS pointing out every flaw in this bland, worthless, typical, cliche, oversexualized, wooden, cardboard, one-dimensional little shallow whore the gaming industry disgraced the very word "character" with, who just so happens to have the depth of a puddle and the appeal of rotting flesh (And don't even get me started on her sadomasochistic chains and shackles that she has ALL over her!), was a perfect match for ANYONE, let alone someone random like Spyro...

It's just all so hilarious! It's a riot! What is likely the most embarrassingly bad video game couple ever to disgrace a screen, and you SUPPORT it, as if it means something to you? It's just so funny!
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#125 CAV 01:27:48 04/10/2011
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There are countries that prohibit it below 18? You've got to be kidding.


Welcome to the United States of America.

Quote: StevemacQ
I'm Spyro should like SoulCalibur because of the level designs, music and graphics. These are the reasons why I like SoulCalibur, Devil May Cry and Final Fantasy, because they remind of PSone Spyro.

Is that really a bad thing? You would rather AC/DC music?


I know what you were getting at. I was just making a bad joke earlier. And I would like a slightly dark tone, provided it was done right (it honestly hasn't). But at the same time, we must all remember that Spyro is a kids game at heart. It's honestly best not to tamper with that.

I like AC/DC.............though Thunderstruck is seriously overused.
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#126 Prysom 01:38:09 04/10/2011
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But wouldn't you want a game that appreciated a balance?
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#127 Silvery 01:49:44 04/10/2011
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No, that it's so ridiculous!

Not only did say LOS, a overused cliche plotbase with plotholes galore all over, was a STORY-HEAVY game,

You're lowering yourself to the point of committing dramatic exaggeration which you yourself know is way overboard. Compared to the other Spyro games LoS was still story-heavy, if for no other reason then for the amount and length of cutscenes present, and the whole movie-esqueness of the game series.

Quote: Prysom
but you said that the characters, the very epitome of worthless acting and blandness, were able to develop ample relationships!

Opinion.

Quote: Prysom
To top it ALL off, you said Cynder, and oh believe me, I could spend HOURS pointing out every flaw in this bland, worthless, typical, cliche, oversexualized, wooden, cardboard, one-dimensional little shallow whore the gaming industry disgraced the very word "character" with, who just so happens to have the depth of a puddle and the appeal of rotting flesh (And don't even get me started on her sadomasochistic chains and shackles that she has ALL over her!), was a perfect match for ANYONE, let alone someone random like Spyro...

Opinion & huge exaggeration; Cynder is by far not from the worse end of female game characters I've seen in terms of the qualities you listed above.

Quote: Prysom
It's just all so hilarious! It's a riot! What is likely the most embarrassingly bad video game couple ever to disgrace a screen,

Opinion.

Quote: Prysom
and you SUPPORT it, as if it means something to you? It's just so funny!

Oh, so you're allowed to not only have all these radical opinions on the characters, but also present them as undisputed facts, while me even stating my opinions is hilarious and ridiculous? smilie
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#128 LevanJess 01:58:16 04/10/2011
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Of course. It's an overrated couple, and I have to say I personally don't like it.
And that's not really what LoS dictates. LoS isn't a game that revolves around love. I guess it could, though.
There's nothing wrong with it, but I told you I personally despise the couple, so there's a problem.
True, it's heavy-storied, but it is FULL of plotholes, and it has a real cliche storyline. And relationship in that dark atmosphere? Doesn't seem too right to me. Especially when Cynder was a HUGE b**ch to Spyro in DotD( I could give reasons). Plus, Spyro didn't even KNOW Cynder that well.

Yep, Elora is left. there are Elora x Spyro shippers. At least Elora isn't a huge b**ch to Spyro( Again, I can give reasons).
Ember can dump Bandit; it isn't very hard. I find that find that kinda funny how you're not in for a dragon x a faun but you seem fine with a dragon x an armadilo (is that what Bandit is?). That's the vibe I get from that "What's left? Elora?" thing.

Also, Ember is cliche (when we've seen less than 2 minutes of her on screen), but Cynder isn't, with her snotty little know-it-all attitude and whoreish shackles? Pfft, yeah, 'kay. I totally haven't seen that before in a story.

Spyro could go with Cynder, Elora, or Ember. Or he could be single. It's opinion on that one.

A game like that could be created, but they do need things like villains and such to make a good game PLUS the romance gaga stuff.
Maybe you have ideas, but I don't, as I don't read Spyro fanfiction.
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#129 Razz 02:18:03 04/10/2011
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Oh, I can't resist! smilie

Quote: Silvery
@LevanJess:
Duhh, of course pretty much all TLoS fanfic ends (if not starts) with SxC, since that's what the entire storyline of LoS dictates, more or less.


Ahahaha! smilie Whoa there, what game were you playing? smilie I can tell what you're reading, certainly, and it's very limited fare. I've written at least one fic that starts with a dead Spyro and no SxC at all and I can point you to several other stories that don't assume that they're a couple just because every other drooling fanboy can't see past Cynder's butt long enough to write anything else. And, call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure the entire storyline of LoS was building up to the defeat of some world-killing evil. What was his name? Malefart? Something like that. smilie

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And call me narrow-minded, but the LoS games are by far the most story-heavy of all Spyro games so far, and this story-heaviness also allows for ample development of relationships between characters, so it's hardly strange that Cynder would seem the most viable partner for Spyro.


Only if you count recycled cliches so old they're collapsing under their dust "story". Frankly, I found trying to save the world from a mysterious shadow plague and ending dragon racism (Shadow Legacy) a lot more interesting and far less predictable. And the only reason Cynder is a "viable partner" for Spyro in LoS is because there is literally no other option unless you wander into squick territory. Frankly, it struck me as massively out of character for Cynder to even care about that sort of thing, and Spyro sure didn't.

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This is further emphasized by how even the only other option(s) - those residing outside of TLoS - are not exactly viable - Ember (a very, VERY cliché female character, might I add) ends up falling for Bandit, and who else is there, Elora the faun? X)
If you ask me, it's either SxC or then Spyro is single. If that's what you would wish instead, then I guess I can't argue with you smilie


I call fantasy racism on this one! smilie Seriously, is your imagination so lacking that you can't abide the thought of two different species pairing up? Wait, no, you can because you do support Bandit/Ember. This pretty much confirms that the only reason you're arguing this at all is because you ship SxC so hard you can't stomach any other idea. Despite the fact that, of all the girls he's met, Elora is the only character to ever a) do something nice for Spyro of her own accord, b) feel bad for getting him into trouble and making him do more work, c) give him more than a second chance with her, and d) KISS him. Whereas Cynder...is the only female of his species, tried to kill him (consciously and unconsciously) no less than three times, betrayed him twice, and never lifted a claw to make him feel any better.

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Also, relationships aren't only about falling in love and admitting it, there's also their evolution, romance, helping and supporting your partner, sharing the good and bad times... I don't see why it wouldn't allow for a good game to be created, as long as the basics are in good hands.


None of which we see in LoS at any point. Relationships are also about time. At most, Spyro and Cynder have known each other for three weeks by the end of DotD. That's not love, kids, and if you think it is, boy are you going to be disappointed about a month down the road from that point. smilie

Yes, that kind of story would make for a good game story. Has it ever been done? No. The closest we've gotten is "Catherine", which still falls very short. Will it ever be done? I hope so, but I don't think an overrated faux epic about a baby purple dragon is going to be the game to do it. Heck, I haven't even seen a single SxC fic that makes that pairing plausible, and I've read a few.

Edit: Whew, I just saw some of your other posts, Silvery. Yep, it's pretty clear what kind of fan you are, which is all well and good, but I do recommend not trying to force your desperate SxC love down the throats of people who aren't with you. At least half of this fandom is comprised of your fellow drooling Cynder fans and I know they'd love to hang out with you. smilie

To quote a little ditty sung by Twilight Sparkle:
It's okay, to not like things
It's okay
Just don't be a dick about it!
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#130 Silvery 02:24:06 04/10/2011
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Bleh, when they finally create a female character who has a sense of dignity and doesn't resign to the helpless-damsel-in-distress stereotype (which is evident from lines such as "Why should you lead?"), she then is a snotty, know-it-all *****? smilie

That dominant attitude in fact makes her a lot less whore-ish than Ember (the one who literally forces herself on Spyro) for example; not offering herself willingly, even if it's to the only one who tried to save her - and successfully did so. The spiky shackles only serve as a memento of her dark past; they shouldn't be combined with her black scale colour in the sense of interpreting it as the dragon counterpart of slutty goth clothing if that's what you imply, since after all Cynder's egg was black to begin with. She couldn't pick her own colour.

The rest of your post seems like blind repeating of what LoS haters/criticizers have probably written here over and over again (no offence smilie); without caring to elaborate on how exactly the storyline is so much more cliché than the majority of the other offerings out there in the gaming world, or on how the game is full of plotholes and how that unavoidably ruins the experience. If this really is your own opinion then I expect you to give examples that I can't counter within good taste; otherwise you should practise more source criticism - don't accept what people say without truly and verily explaining the reasons behind it to yourself. smilie

To everyone in general: Stop dissing Cynder only because so many people are fans of her smilie. I know it's tempting to constantly pick on something that so many like while you don't (the more it's liked the more you want to diss it), but I seriously don't see how she is such an awful character that she would be of deserving this... near discrimination. Of course she isn't perfect, but trust me when I say she is definitely and by far not one of the worse characters I've seen. I for one am more than content with her character design. ;p
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#131 Razz 02:30:43 04/10/2011
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I really should stop writing things I know whoever I wrote them for isn't going to read. smilie And you missed my edit, so here it is again:

Edit: Whew, I just saw some of your other posts, Silvery. Yep, it's pretty clear what kind of fan you are, which is all well and good, but I do recommend not trying to force your desperate SxC love down the throats of people who aren't with you. At least half of this fandom is comprised of your fellow drooling Cynder fans and I know they'd love to hang out with you. smilie

To quote a little ditty sung by Twilight Sparkle:
It's okay, to not like things
It's okay
Just don't be a dick about it!
smilie

Now to address this little doozey:

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To everyone in general: Stop dissing Cynder only because so many people are fans of her smilie. I know it's tempting to constantly pick on something that so many like while you don't (the more it's liked the more you want to diss it), but I seriously don't see how she is such an awful character that she would be of deserving this... near discrimination. Of course she isn't perfect, but trust me when I say she is definitely and by far not one of the worse characters I've seen. I for one am more than content with her character design. ;p


Oh ho, spoken like a true Cyndork. smilie I'd tell you why I don't like her, but I know you won't read it and will insist that your theory about people only hating her for her fans is the only reason people don't like her. And, just so you're aware, Cynder's not real. It's quite impossible to discriminate against a bunch of pixels. smilie
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#132 LevanJess 02:46:11 04/10/2011
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Ember is the Damsel-in-Distress when Cynder was the one who had to be rescued at least 3 times? When Ember wasn't even in trouble in any of the games (I haven't played SL, so I'm not sure on that one), and needed Spyro to help her?
She IS a snotty little know-it-all. She's "dominant" in DotD, but did you notice her attitude? Or how she pretty much told Spyro to "get over it and get a move on!" when Ignitus died?

You've seen less than 2 minutes of Ember. And Cynder being dominant doesn't completely bring her out of being a whore. Not offering herself, huh? She knew Spyro less than 4 weeks by the end of DotD, and then says "I love you". That sounds like offering herself.
Sure, Ember had her flaws and "forced" herself on Spyro, sure. It's not like Ember yelled "U MUST LOVE ME!111"
Cynder didn't either, but hey, at least Ember doesn't need Spyro to save her all the time. I don't think you can say the same for Cynder.
She couldn't. But the shackles still make her look a bit whoreish.

I don't hate LoS, I mostly hate most of the fandom and the annoying cliche story and plotholes. So, elaborate how I failed to make a point.
You seriously didn't notice the HUGE plotholes in DotD?

1. When Malefor had Spyro at the beginning of the game, he could've killed him. He didn't.
2. The shackles on Cynder. How did they get on there?
3. How did Spyro and Cynder grow up in a CRYSTAL?
4. How come in that one level where Hunter was on the other side of that building, they couldn't FLY over it?

I'm in a rush now, but if you want more, tell me.

The cliche storyline? I totally haven't seen the whole "A girl gets in trouble, a boy comes and saves her, she runs away, he saves her again, she falls in love with him even though he barely knows her" storylines before. smilie
I was going to, I was waiting to see if you wanted me to.
Of course. See above sentence.

What an example of a Cyntard (no offense). I don't just hate he